We had a gift horse, Agents. No WAY we were gonna look it in the mouth.
So, giddy with happiness, we began to shop for cars. This was fairly easy-- we live just down the street from a major Auto Mall, so there's no shortage of test-driveability going on.
Agent ACK, who was on vacation, volunteered to come with us and lend us his expertise (as he had JUST leased a new Toyota RAV 4.) Mrs. ACK joined us as well, so we were well armed with facts and figures as we prepared to do our Due Diligence Shop-Around Comparison.
First stop: Honda. We had heard that the "big 5" dealers in terms of quality and safety were no longer the likes of Ford, Dodge, Oldsmobile and the like. No, the Japanese models were de rigueur in terms of mechanical lastability, which was our major buying concern. (After driving a 1991 Dodge Spirit, one gets a little paranoid about one's automobile's staying power, Agents.)
Immediately I didn't like Honda for two reasons: Smokey. Bob.
That's right, Smokey Bob is one of those dyed-in-the-wool Alberta Car Salesmen who'll put his arm around you, fix you with a yellowed, rheumy eye and grin with nicotine-brown teeth and tell you how you and "the little lady" ought to see yourselves in this nice car, all things being equal and you and he see eye-to-eye because you're menfolk, don'cha know.
Holding my breath to avoid his aroma and listening to the voice of forty years' smoking rasp on in my ear, I had a mad urge to scream: "I wet my pants and wear dresses and can't go out without my mommy's permission because I'm a bad boy!"
Yeah, it's a non-sequitur. But it's also the verbal equivalent of gnawing off my own arm to get away from the trap that was Smokey Bob. I'm not like you, Smokey. I don't want to BE like you. Don't hold the door open for me. Don't put your arm around my shoulder. And don't assume I'm going to like your off-color jokes just because I have a penis, you ancient throwback to the fifties-redneck-days bastard.
So anyway. Drove the Civic and the Accord. Two down.
Next was Toyota. Talked with Ryan, the same salesman who handled Mr. and Mrs. ACK's recent transaction. They had nothing but praise for him-- and he was quite cool. He was our age or younger, friendly but not too friendly, and most of all, casual. No pressure whatsoever. So we muchly enjoyed test-driving the Corolla and the Camry, by gum, and even got my MOM in to test-drive an Echo. She's gonna come back in the fall to pick it up, she says. Ryan had a good day that day.
Then came Nissan. I had had a Micra waaaay back in 1990, and it was a good little car. So we drove the Sentra, and that was nice. However, we had to have them PAGE a salesman for fifteen minutes just to get any service whatsoever-- had we not been driven to the dealership (the one dealership we don't have down the street!) by Agent ACK, I'd have walked out on such sloppy service. OH yeah. Watch me vote with my FEET on how sucky the suckitude of Stadium Nissan in Calgary is. Screw, as they say, you guys.
So now it was decision time!
Right away my Dad, the financier, put the kibosh on the higher-end sedans like the Camry and the Accord. A little outta his price range. That was fine-- although he hadn't really given us a price range in the first place (why do people never set any boundaries until you bump up against them? It's the same in contract work for clients, too-- but that's a whole Rant unto itself.), we had enjoyed all our test-drives.
We nixed the Nissan partly because of the TERRIBLE service, and partly because the dealership wasn't handy to our neighborhood. There's nothing more excruciatingly boring than taking your car into your dealership for servicing and having nothing to do because you've got no car for 2-4 hours.
So okay: After a week of test-driving and comparing brochures, it was down to two cars: The Toyota Corolla and the Honda Civic. So Marci and I sat down one evening with a highlighter pen and went through, point by point, the option packages on these two vehicles. Turns out the Corolla offered more, and was WAY cheaper to boot. Plus we liked Ryan so much more than Smokey Bob. Plus the ACKs had bought a Toyota (and Agent ACK has owned Toyotas since he was 17) So there we had it: The Toyota Corolla would be our Car Of Choice.
And then we had to haggle. I DESPISE haggling. I was born and raised in North America, and I just want to go in and have the price be the price and then just be done with it.
But no. My father is a financial wizard; this man can make money sit up and beg, roll over, and do tricks before tucking itself into a progressive RRSP. And he wanted me to haggle.
Trouble was, Toyota has something called "Access Pricing." Long and short of it is, they don't haggle. The price is the price. Well, Dad M had a few things to say about that-- "price fixing is illegal," being one of them. And so for a week I went back and forth on the phone with Ryan saying the deal would fall through if they wouldn't knock off some magical number that my Dad had fixed in his head. $271.00, or the cost of a Dash Kit upgrade.
Ryan said Toyota wouldn't. I said Dad wouldn't pony up if this couldn't be met. Ryan told me that was too bad. My Dad told me to go to another dealership. Since I had no car to drive, I wasn't too keen on going all over town just to go through the same spiel at each place.
At this point, I was at the breaking point. All I wanted was the car that was OFFERED to me, goddammit, why was this turning into such a pain in the ass?
Doing a Cost Benefit Analysis, (something my Dad taught me to do by the way), I realized that the pain of dealing with this situation was worth more than the car was. I told my dad, with some regret, that if he would walk away from a deal over too much stress then I, too, should walk away from this deal with him over my stress about it.
His response: "Okay, good luck."
Well, that was a wrist-slitter. Now I had no car, no deal, and no happiness. I wanted to blow my own head off.
I slept on it, and in the morning realized that the whole thing was foolishness. I was NOT going to lose out on this deal just because of McAdam obstinacy-- mine, or my father's. I phoned him and told him I wanted to go ahead with this deal and that they were willing to come down in price over at Toyota.
Tickety-boo, the deal was back on. I resolved that I would pay the $271.00 MYSELF if they wouldn't deal. Just to get this matter closed and in the bag.
Now all we had to do was just go in and buy it. Simple, right? An afternoon's lark and voila.
But no. OH no. That would be too SIMPLE.
It started innocently enough: Mrs. M and I went in to fill out forms and sign some papers with Trent, the guy in Accounting at Charlesglen Toyota. Mrs. M and I gave our information, and since Dad M was our primary financier, all we needed was for Toyota to send him some papers to sign. These were triplicate forms, so they couldn't be faxed-- he had to sign the papers themselves.
Well, that was no problem-- the papers would be sent to his hotel in Halifax. We phoned his secretary in Winnipeg and got all the information. Huzzah! The papers would be sent and signed and returned, and we would have our car sometime around Wednesday of the following week.
Meantime, we changed our insurance over to the new car-- we managed to get the new car's serial number from Ryan-- and waited with bated breath for the papers to return.
Wednesday rolled around. No news. I phoned Trent and asked how the paper sending had gone. Turns out he hadn't sent them. "Pardon?" I asked. Apparently there was some sort of mix-up and he hadn't sent the papers to Halifax-- even after all the trouble we went to to get the address and impress upon him that time was a factor.
At this point, you understand, our suburban family of 3 had NO car whatsoever. My mother, bless her, gave us the use of her 1987 Dodge Aries K car, baby blue in color; it was nicknamed "Buck," as that is what it did after every single bump in the road. This car also ONLY had AM radio, meaning Buck was permanently stuck in the 50's, 60's and 70's musically. Buck also had bench seats, which meant that whoever was driving set the tone for how far the seat went back-- and the seat was broken, which meant it really only fit my mother and therefore when I drove it my knees were somewhere up by my ears.
Factor all this in and understand that every day's delay in getting my new car was slowly eroding my soul into a mass of bruised knees, wrist-slitting 70's ballads and the everpresent smell of Febreeze.
Now back to my story:
A week had gone by and I was beginning to become antsy. Deals like this could fall through at any point until the car was in one's hot little hands, and I began to fear it would do just that.
My Dad emailed me on Thursday to tell me he'd received the papers and that they were unacceptable. I phoned him to ask why, and it turns out that Trent, the accounting guy, had added several upgrade packages onto the price that I had SPECIFICALLY TURNED DOWN. Dad was furious; he was going to turn the deal down.
After all this, the idea that Dad might pull the plug because of an IDIOT working at a car dealership made me crazed. INSANE, I tell you.
I phoned Trent immediately: "What's going on, Trent? You assured me these would be sent out two weeks ago and they weren't. Now they've been sent out and they're incorrect," I said, keeping a tight rein on my voice and my temper.
Excuses and obfuscation followed, culminating with Trent claiming that he thought I had to come in and sign MORE papers.
"How can that be, Trent?" I asked, evenly if tightly. "I was IN YOUR OFFICE signing papers. Don't you think if there were more to sign you could have told me that at the time?"
"I don't think I like your tone, Mike."
I told him I'd speak to his manager about it and I got on the phone so fast I thought my numerical keypad would catch fire. I got a machine on the other end. I spoke in VERY clear, businesslike tones about how my deal for a $22,000 automobile was about to fall through due to one employee's neolithic incompetence (A phrase which here means, a level of unsatisfactory conduct only explained by having the brain of a Cro-Magnon man from the Neolithic Period. Feel free to use this phrase yourselves if you wish, Agents, I've got more).
I got a call back from Drew, the Customer Service manager, the next day. He was apologetic and swore he'd get to the bottom of this. I was unconvinced, but he told me that it didn't matter if I was spending five hundred or fifty thousand dollars, I was a customer and I should never, ever have been treated like that.
Damn RIGHT. I've got a rant about Customer Service in today's retail marketplace, but that too I will address another time. Suffice it to say, these were words that I NEEDED TO HEAR.
After speaking with Trent, Drew said he didn't know what had happened and began to apologize, but I cut him off. I said that there were new rules: I did not want to deal with Trent ever again, didn't want him anywhere near this deal. I said I wanted new papers COURIERED to my Dad that day, and I wanted this deal in the bag by Friday.
Drew assured me that not only would this happen, but that he would throw in the first oil change on my car for free and come down in price for one Dash Kit, Aluminum.
Well, shit fire and save matches, kids, it looked like we had ourselves a deal.
But wait, there's more.
Now I just had to wait for the papers to come back, and they would order the car (A silver 2003 Toyota Corolla-- Mrs. M and I wanted black at first, but there were only two in the country, both in Ontario, at the time) to the lot.
We waited for another week. Then ANOTHER week.
That made a total of FOUR WEEKS since our Dodge first died, and still we were waiting on a car.
I'd had it. This was CANADA-- you buy something, you GET it, what's the deal?? I phoned Ryan and said that I was paying insurance for a car I did not have, and was still waiting to have, and that here is what I wanted:
"Either fax the papers to my Dad today, get a FAX signature, and proceed from there until the real papers come in;
"Give me my car NOW and let me drive it around, since I'm insured on it;
"...or, give me a loaner car until MY car comes in."
I hated that I, the customer, had to be the one to come up with options to give the dealership on how to please me. But they came up with the loaner car the very next day, and finally I could release Buck back to my mother and drive last year's model of the car I was going to get.
Four days later, we GOT OUR CAR. By this point I was just crying delirious tears of joy. I shook Ryan's hand, mumbled happy noises through his long story about his first car deal and drove away.
We had more snags with the registration but finally got that resolved, too-- five weeks from loss of old car to acquisition of new one, but by God we GOT THERE.
This is a long, drawn-out story, Agents, and I'm aware of that. But I needed to get it out so that I won't relive it every time I close my eyes at night.
The car is a dream, by the way. We called it "Bounty," both for the reaping a huge reward connotation as well as the fact that it is The Quicker Picker-Upper when compared to our old Dodge.
The moral of this story, Agents? BE ASSERTIVE. Do NOT trust anyone else to do what they're paid to do; you are the customer, and it is your God-given right to harass, annoy, and badger the retailer until you get everything you want. THEY aren't doing YOU a favor by serving you; YOU are doing THEM a favor by giving them your business. NEVER forget that, EVER.
And treasure good salespeople. They're rare.
PUNISH bad employees. Tell their supervisors ALL about your bad experience-- in this fashion, you will help to weed out the morons.
Congratulations on the new car!
Your experience(s) are about what one should expect, unfortunately. There are preventative measures, but nobody is immune from the tactics that were used on you. If it's any consolation, you should know that it's normal and that they were not picking on you in particular, nor is the auto industry singularly guilty of such practices.
On a side note, Ontario just last week filed a court order specifically against Toyota for their "Access Pricing" scheme, labeling it "price fixing," after CBC Newsworld filed an expose on the program.
You are absolutely correct regarding the treasuring of good partners. Work with people, not companies!
However, don't wage a war for soil you don't plan to till. Why punish a bad employee except to satisfy your bully urges once you are sure you can't lose? Far better to invest your energy seeking better relationships.
Be assertive at the right time and you will have to bare your teeth less often. Ask your Dad, he'll tell you.
Have fun with your new car!
Cheers!
-CH
Yet more wise quotes from the Hug'Gee.
I've SEEN his design notebooks, agents; FULL of good and wise quotes from every reference and situation. Really good words to live by.
In this case, though, punishing the bad employee is designed to get him out of the industry so that I never have to deal with him again at the dealership at which I have chosen to continue my business.
I'm not saying, "Destroy utterly all who would oppose you," (because that would be a neat trick if one could actually pull it off), rather I'm saying that one must take steps to ensure quality control if one is going to continue to deal with a company. And sometimes, one has to deal with the company as well as the people.
Your quotes are encouraging, Hug'Gee, but I caution my other readers-- like so many maxims, they're much better generally than they are for specifics.
Mind you, that sort of covers my blog entries, too.
Think for yourself, then do what I say.
--Agent M
I now have the power to send Agent M into a blind, foaming-at-the-mouth, gibbering RAGE, and all it takes is eight little words:
"I don't think I like your tone, Mike."
I must be careful to use this power only for good, not evil.
--Quixote
Posted by: Quixote on August 5, 2003 09:26 AMActually, that only Hulks me out if I'm spending $22,000 at the business you represent. And if you don't like my tone THEN, I'll suggest you put something in your mouth to absorb the sound of my voice-- and to help, I'll guide you by holding your EARS.
OH yeah.
M
Posted by: Agent M on August 5, 2003 10:11 AM"and to help, I'll guide you by holding your EARS."
... any comments I may have had regarding this saga were blown out of my mental poop-chute with the force of a power-vac enema.
The above AgentM quotation has burned a foul image into the crevices of my brain, forever crushing and blinding my imagination ...
... which might be a good thing ...
ACK!
Posted by: Agent ACK on August 5, 2003 10:56 AMOh... one more thing.
The car is named BOUNTY. Excellent moniker, I must say. Guess it's nice 'n absorbant then.
*duck*
Posted by: Agent ACK on August 6, 2003 01:45 PMHoly shit dude. What a pain in the rear. I remember being almost as furious when I bought my echo 2 years ago. Although, the details escape me, kinda like having a kid. You forget so that you will go through it again in the future I guess.
Posted by: shell on August 7, 2003 03:43 PMHey Michael!
Awwww.... poor diddums had to make a few phone calls to get a fully paid for brand new car? Oh I share your pain.... come drive a day with me in my crap assed "made for 6 foot tall people" grand am and enjoy having the stearing wheel up your chest from having the seat so far forward so yer little feet can reach the peddles Never mind trying to use the stick shift that's now approximately in the backseat. Yes, enjoy that odd squeak somewhere in the dash that starts when you drive over 30kpm, the useless cup holders, and the flat cushions. My darling, drive a mile in someone else's second hand car and enjoy yer brand spankin' new free glory mobile! If I promise to make 30 phone calls... hell I'll throw in en extra 20... make it *50* phone calls... will you buy me a brand new car of my chosing? I'll even put up with any caveats you want... please? ;-)
Glad to hear life is treating you guys well though! You never replied to any of my aprés baby emails... hopefully you're all still alive and kicking over there! When's the baby shower? We have been patiently waiting over here and still have little something for your little something... hey! Sicko.. not *that* little something... I talking about *Peter*! Sheesh... Michael... you never change.. ;-)
-Cari
You can always count on Cari to be a complete and total bitch behind her smiley face. :)
Seriously, Cari's a good egg. Always dropping an acerbic word here or there but always in the spirit of no-bullshit, which I appreciate despite my urges to yank out her pretty red-- what was I saying? Oh.
Actually, something that Cari brought up does actually bug me, and it's the whole "never complain about something you get for free" whinge.
Let me quote an adage here: "A gift isn't an obligation."
"Well, M," you may say, "no one was FORCING you to take a free car," as you shake your heads in disbelief about my audacity to complain about such a bountiful reward.
But does that also eliminate my right to rant about the unbelievable incompetence surrounding the service industry or the hardships involved in getting a free car?
"Free car," says you. "FREE. CAR. Get it?"
"Sure," says I. "Free car. Kind of like those free vacations you get where the airfare is paid for, only you have to stay at a five-star hotel and sign up for an exclusive gym for a minimum of one year."
"Oh. THAT kind of free." You begin to nod.
"Yes, except in this case the hotel and gym membership are represented by time invested and stress," I explain.
There are those of you out there who believe that nothing free should ever be complained about. And hey, I'm not complaining about the CAR. I'm over the moon about the car.
But do I lose my rights as a consumer, asking for the barest minimum of competence, because I'm not the one paying for the vehicle?
Screw, as they say, THAT.
Never give up your rights, folks. Including the right to complain about a transaction, that, although it cost you nothing monetarily, cost you time, effort, and stress due to your time and effort being wasted by someone who did not value them. Because then your gift, wonderful as it is, gets tainted by obligation.
Drop dead, Trent. I blame you.
Cari, we'd love to get together when we get back-- but you better play nice or I'll have to run over you with my new car. ;-)
M
Posted by: Agent M on August 13, 2003 04:14 PMAs someone who is even now sicking lawyers on the bastards (Pointe of Screw) who took my money and have yet to cough up my condo, I can truly feel your pain.
It's even harder to claw your rights back after my patient and a trusting nature allowed them to slip away.
To put it another way: "AMEN BROTHER MICHAEL".
Quixote
Posted by: Quixote on August 18, 2003 11:42 AMMichael, I wasn't razzing you about not sticking up for yourself, I was razzing you about having the gall to whine about getting up off yer butt to make a couple dozen phone calls to get this new car. What happened to the days when you'd razz back without the passive aggressive slap-and-duck treatment to people you call your friends (slap-and-duck--defined as the 'slap' and then ducking behind the "Oh I was just kidding, so you can't possible be mad that I slapped in the first place" excuse)? When did you become so cool that you couldn't enjoy a bit of humor and ribbing from someone writing to say it's just envious that you got this new car, hope life is doing well, and when can we play next? If I may be a total bitch again Michael, go slap-and duck-yourself.
Posted by: Cari on August 25, 2003 03:01 PMI dunno, Cari-- what happened to the days when I could tell the difference between humor and ribbing and thinking that you were the one doing the slap-and-ducking in the first place?
I too could say, "Oh, Cari, you KNOW I was only joking, whatever happened to YOUR sense of humour?"
But hey, if it was meant as just razzing, that's all cool. It's just not the impression that I got.
M
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